Showing posts with label theo questions. Show all posts
Showing posts with label theo questions. Show all posts

Sunday, January 10, 2010

facebook theology (it's baaaack!)

OK, having addressed the 'ethics' of posting this, I have rescued 'facebook theology' from the recycle bin and am offering it back up for your perusal...

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Even though facebook consists of short (and often trivial) snippets, I think you can learn a lot about people by what they post. Case in point: M (I will use first initial only) is someone my family knew when he lived in our city. He now lives in a different state and tunes pianos for a living. Many of his status updates have to do with pianos, but lots of them refer to how much he loves God, his church, etc. Of course that wouldn't be a problem, but some of his status updates lead one to seriously question if M "practices what he preaches".

The other day David (and then Christina) found one of M's status updates particularly troublesome, and challenged him on it. (J, a friend of M whom we don't know, jumped in to defend M.) It's a little bit long, but interesting. Read on!

M tuned for a homeless shelter today. Needless to say, I kept a close eye on my tool bag while I worked.

David
Yeah, I remember Jesus was always really wary of the poor too.

J
David, there's no problem with a little caution when it comes to expensive tuning tools. "Be wise as serpents and innocent as doves." Mathew 10:16 (as spoken by the aforementioned Jesus)

David
J, I don't have a problem with people being protective of expensive possessions. But, criminalizing the status of the poor is something Jesus would never have done and I think it's immoral. See the entire New Testament.

M
I guess I should've left my HP ipaq lying on the piano while I went to the bathroom. After all, I would NEVER think it may end up missing after I returned. Oh, and by the way, since Jesus is all knowing, and we are not, I am sure He would know before hand if it was safe to leave his stuff.

Sorry dude, my status comment was not criminalizing the poor.

Besides several staff members told me to take my stuff with me if I left for a moment, and they even had someone guard the piano. Maybe that's criminalizing. Let me know and I'll give you their number and you can tell them that that's something Jesus would never have done and that it's immoral.

J
Admit it, M. Although you thought you were posting something interesting about your day, the authority of the entire New Testament (with David's help) has exposed your darkly immoral prejudices.

M
I know it! I guess I am not without sin.....

Christina
Hmm, no, your status comment was absolutely criminalizing the poor. You assumed that based on the fact that they are poor, they will likely steal your things. That is pretty much the definition of criminalizing, which you need to recognize. And maybe you're right, maybe they would have stolen your stuff. However, as a general rule, it is probably wise to keep track of your belongings in public because ANYONE might be tempted to take your things, regardless of their socioeconomic status. At the very least, you should take responsibility for your offensive and prejudicial attitude. I do not expect you to be "without sin", but because you are someone who is constantly touting their love for Jesus on the internet, to see such a lack of compassion for poor people, many of whom live in a deep state of desperation and despair, is hypocritical at best.

J
Christina, you and David are MFEO! I don't think you guys are concerned that M harbored these feelings of wariness. I think you are peeved that he expressed them publicly. There is a term for this kind of cognitive dissonance whereby we harshly judge others for giving voice to perfectly reasonable thoughts: Political Correctness. I, too have worked with people that minister to the homeless. They are full of compassion and the love of Jesus yet understand their clientele better than anyone. Their admonition to M came from experience.

M
. . . what J said. And Christina, you are wrong, I was not criminalizing the poor.

Christina
J: Nope, I am indeed concerned that M harbored these feelings of wariness for reasons that I have already clearly outlined.

M: You either do not understand the definition of criminalization, or you are in an unfortunate state of denial. Either way, there is no point in me continuing this hopeless discussion.


M
Best thought you've had...

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And I'm cutting it off there. M and J had more to say, but their comments were almost entirely just personal, character attacks on David and Christina.

Soooo, if you've hung with this so far...
Christina and David do not regularly attend a church. And if they perceive that many church-goers have attitudes like M's (and J's), why should they want to?!

I find the M's and J's of the world frustrating to say the least. What is YOUR take on this?

Tuesday, May 26, 2009

ooh, ooh, it's a contest!

About two years ago I saw and blogged about a car sporting a "billboard-style" bumper sticker with this theological message: "Jesus abhors all faith for it seems good but is lies that damn you to death in hell." (Hmm... ok, that's a head scratcher.)

Then last week Hubby and I drove up to Olympia to attend a dinner and continuing education class and spotted this new billboard-on-wheels:



What the frick?! This is even weirder than the other one (and that was hard to do).

I decided a prize will be awarded to the person who best explains the meaning of this new cryptic theo-message to me. (Or takes the best whack at it.)

What prize, you ask? Why, it's an excitin' Views from the Road mug!



But don't let that discourage you from entering! :)

Tuesday, May 22, 2007

cars say the darndest things


In March I posted some thoughts about bumper stickers, including how they try to reduce complex concepts down to a few words that can be absorbed during the limited time spent at a stop light.

As I was driving home on Sunday from Lacey (where I dropped off #1 Offspring so she could catch her ride back up to college), I noticed a car where the driver obviously felt traditional bumper stickers were far too limiting. Since my camera was right next to me, I couldn't resist holding it up at the approximate angle and taking a shot. Because my eyes were on the road (yes, I'm telling the truth!), I had no idea if I got any kind of a picture. But when I got home I found that, low and behold, I had indeed captured this billboard on wheels!

So what was the message the driver felt so strongly about that he or she went to some obvious trouble and expense to post it on the vehicle? Here ya go:



Hmmm... now I'm confused. I thought Jesus had a little higher opinion of the whole faith thing. Didn't he say stuff like "Your faith has healed you" and "If you have faith as small as a mustard seed you can say to this mountain, 'Move from here to there and it will move. Nothing will be impossible for you.'" ?

OK you pastors out there (and you know who you are)...I realize we've been "dechurched" for a bit, but is there some reaallly new teaching I've been missing?!

Monday, January 15, 2007

Stumped at the E.R.


Not long after The Portal on Sunday, David dislocated his shoulder (mega-ouch!), so we spent part of the evening at the E.R. After the doctor manipulated the shoulder back in place (mega-ouch, part II), they took him to x-ray. While David was getting his shoulder imaged, a hospital clerical-type worker had some papers for me to sign and asked me some questions. Of course, the questions aren't designed to be real "stumpers", but one had me flummoxed!

Hospital Guy: "What is your religious preference?"
Me: Long pause. "Umm..." Another long pause (with quizzical, searching look on my face).

I wanted to answer, "My religious preference would be for a church that is relevant, authentic, inclusive, and one which embraces mystery and creativity. But there isn't one like that in town, so we are doing a small group."

Instead, I ended up saying, "Umm... Protestant??" (which came out as a question and not an answer).

OK, I'd like to be better prepared next time I'm asked for our religious preference, but for the life of me I can't think of an accurate yet succinct answer. Sigh.
--Barb

Wednesday, January 10, 2007

Here's a Head Scratcher!


I ran across something interesting on LarkNews.com entitled Pastor Tries Inauthenticity. The brief article is about a pastor in Bend, Oregon who gave up trying to be real since "nobody knows himself well enough to be fully authentic, and trying to self-divulge all the time breeds shallow relationships because it denies the complexity and mystery of human personalities."

In defense of his new inauthenticity, the pastor makes the point that Jesus himself "wasn't 'constantly open and frank' and didn't even speak plainly to his disciples until the Last Supper." In addition, "Jesus also spoke in parables and obscured his messianic identity for three years"!

OK, people, let's weigh in! What's your take on this? You go first!
--BB